Thursday, April 2, 2009

THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG - CSIS and RCMP and Intelligence Services that did not know that Syria TORTURES !


FACTS:

Canadians have been detained and tortured abroad with the "indirect"participation of CSIS and RCMP.

In one of the cases, Ahmad El Maati, a Canadian Citizen was tortured with electric shocks and more, being detained and tortured in Syria after CSIS shared information with foreign agencies that inaccurately characterized him as being an “Islamic extremist” linked to “an aide of Osama Bin Laden.”

The Iacobucci Inquiry found that CSIS (and the RCMP) received a “confession” extracted under torture from Ahmad El Maati in November 2001, then crafted a new set of questions to send back to El Maati’s Syrian interrogators in an attempt to “corroborate” the confession.

This confession under toture was used by the RCMP to justify search warrants and telephone taps in Canada and the information obtained through the searches was used to write more questions for interrogators (torturers) to ask not just El Maati, but also another Canadian Citizen - Abdullah Almalki.


TRUTH THAT MAKES SENSE:

CSIS lawyer Geoffrey O’Brian, said the spy agency still uses information that may have been obtained by torture in national security investigations "if lives are at stake".

He offered the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security lengthy and substantive answers and even quoted a British House of Lords 2005 decision to explain the agency's approach.

His testimony can be watched HERE.

His testimony is compatible with the facts.

Mr. O’Brian, who has been with CSIS since the eighties is a veteran CSIS adviser and a lawyer. He helped draft the CSIS Act. Chances are high that he knows what he is talking about. And the facts seem to corroborate his statements.

But Jim Judd, director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, told a Commons Public Safety Committee, on Thursday, April 2, 2009, that a CSIS official misspoke on the subject.

Our hearts go to Mr. O'Brian, who apparently is the one who was candid with Canadian Representatives and who appears to know what he is talking about!

The truth, in a Democracy and in life , is always better than a cover up or a lie .

More:

1) Jim Judd's HERE.

2) Torture of Canadian Citizens with the "indirect" participation fo Canadain officials - Iacobucci and O'Connor Report - HERE and HERE

3) The truth and nothing but the truth - the story of Canadian national security investigations gone terribly wrong, , told through the experiences of four of its targets: Ahmad El Maati, Abdullah Almalki, Maher Arar and Muayyed Nureddin - Dark Days - HERE

4) CSIS in Guantanamo - Americans Nototrious Torture Prison:

The Report - the Canadian Officials participation in interrogation in the notorious Torture prison of Guantanamo:
The report is on line at:

The University of California Davis Center for the Study of Human Rights in the Americas (CSHRA) - Guantanamo Testimonies - HERE

An extract of the report:

"PAGE 9 of the Report : Preparing the 12 year-old Canadian for the Canadian "visit" :

"6. In an effort to make him more amenable and willing to talk,(blacked out)_ has placed Umar
on the -frequent flyer program: for the three weeks before Mr(blacked out) ~s visit, Umar has not been permitted more than three hours in anyone location. At three hours intervals
he is moved to another cell block, thus denying him uninterrupted'sleep and a continued change of neighbours. He will soon be placed in isolation for up to three weeks and then he will be interviewed again".

5) The Politics of Torture - The Pinochet Case HERE

Tuesday, March 31, 2009

CANADA'S GLOWING HUMAN RIGHTS RECORD- CSIS Lawyer Geoffrey O'Brian- to WATCH THE HEARING click HERE


CSIS lawyer and advisor on operations and legislation, GEOFFREY O'BRIAN , on a Public Safety Committee hearing today, March 31, 2009 talked about those countries that torture as:

"countries that have human-rights records that are not as glowing as ours"

Regarding CSIS use of information obtained through torture, Mr. O'Brian also claimed that:

"... there is no absolute ban on using intelligence that may have been obtained from countries with questionable human rights records on torture"

He went further saying that the Canadian Security Intelligence Service will use information extracted through torture if lives are at stake.

Some experts would disagree with Mr. O'Brian just because they value reliable intelligence.

In a recent article in the Washington Post ( Sunday, March 29, 2009) Former senior American government officials who closely followed the harsh interrogations (torture) affirm that :

" not a single significant plot was foiled as a result of tortured confessions. "

"Nearly all of the leads attained through the harsh measures quickly evaporated"

The article - "Detainee's Harsh Treatment Foiled No Plots" - by Peter Finn and Joby Warrick , Washington Post, Sunday, March 29, 2009,

can be read HERE

"Waterboarding, Rough Interrogation of Abu Zubaida Produced False Leads, Officials Say"
( to read the article, click HERE )

Also, an article where Dan Coleman, the FBI’s senior expert on al-Qaeda, revisits the CIA’s introduction of the torture program, after the successes recorded by the FBI , can explain why experts disagree:
The article:

"The Futility Of Torture and A Trail of Broken Lives"

(click HEREto read the article)

BUT GEOFFREY O'BRIAN , CSIS lawyer and advisor on operations and legislation, probably disagrees with an al-Quaeda expert and even with those senior officials who closely followed the torture of "high value" detainees:

Instead of a respectful and decent intelligence service, capable of gathering reliable information, his claim puts Canadian Secret Services side by side with those who practice barbaric medieval procedures like torture. Not to mention breaking Canadian Laws, the Geneva Conventions and so on..

But Mr. O'Brian still believes that Canada is different from those "others" when the refers to those "other countries" as :

"countries that have human-rights records that are not as glowing as ours".

GLOWING RECORDS ??? Canada has signed and ratified , among others, Nuremberg and Geneva and all international conventions and treaties that BAN TORTURE, making them Canadian law.

Is the Canadian human rights record still glowing that much after information obtained through torture is part of CSIS' intelligence gathering tool kit?

More or less complicity in torture ????!! More or less breaking the Law??? !!!

And still a GLOWING RECORD!!???

The torturers all around the world are having the day of their lives today, for sure!! Canada is a friend !

Canada has just joined the list of those who endorse "a bit of torture" and believe that information gathered in this way is OK!!

At least Mr. O'Brian candid assertions give a clear definition to the Canadian "glowing record" on human rights - some torture here , some torture there is OK!

The reason the cover up of the torture of Canadian citizens happened and a little bit here and there of the "indirect participation" of CSIS/RCMP in torture were well explained today by Mr. Geoffrey O'Brian!

Liberal Mark Holland said something important but why would Mr. O'Brian care?

"We're sending the message today that if it's good enough, that if you torture them well enough and you get information that is marketable enough, then we're going to buy it — we're in the market for information obtained by torture," he said.

"That's a dangerous message to be sending out there," Holland said.

To watch Mr. O'Brian at the Committee hearing and all those present , go to :
SECU Meeting No. 13 - March 31, 2009 at:

http://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/Parlvu/ContentEntityDetailView.aspx?ContentEntityId=4326



More at: (some articles dated March 31, 2009)

MACLEANS: "Do We Endorse Torture? "
http://www2.macleans.ca/tag/geoffrey-obrian/


Globe and Mail : "CSIS won't rule out tips derived from torture"
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090331.wcsis31/BNStory/National/?page=rss&id=RTGAM.20090331.wcsis31

CTV : "Spy agency rejects complete ban on torture info"
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090331/CSIS_torture_090331/20090331?hub=Canada


The Canadian Press:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5hwY1L_6m_leNu169qhKQ4y_r3W5w


The Star:
http://www.thestar.com/article/611114

Monday, March 30, 2009

March 31, 2009-CSIS, RCMP to testify before Public Safety Committee



Witnesses representing the RCMP, CSIS and the Canadian Border Services Agency (CBSA) will testify on the Arar Inquiry recommendations and the Iacobucci Inquiry findings before the Public Safety Committee on Tuesday, March 31.

The hearing takes place from 9:00 to 11:00 a.m., in room 253 Centre Block on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, and is open to the public.

From Kerry Pither's Blog: ( to go to her Blog click HERE)

"CSIS and RCMP representatives should be asked, among other things, if they are prepared to apologize for the ways in which their agencies contributed to the detention and torture of Canadian citizens."

HEARING:
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 9:00 to 11:00 a.m.
Room 253 - Centre Block on Parliament Hill in Ottawa
Open to the public.

But...Will accountability come out of the hearings?Are RCMP/CSIS prepared to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Are they prepared and willing to take responsibility for their acts?

Are they going to make accountable, on an individual basis, those who deliberately betrayed Canada and Canadians by getting into the “dark side” and covering up crimes?

RCMP/CSIS and others, at this point, stand side by side with secret services and police forces in criminal dictatorships, keeping criminal insiders protected for “national security” reasons . None of them have any moral standing to point fingers at criminals. Hopefully some accountability will come out of these hearings. If not, God Help Canada!

Saturday, March 28, 2009

Canada, SIDE BY SIDE with the the American Torture Program? Is the worse still to be seen?


March 17, 2009 - Court Rules Again: Abu Ghraib Photos Must Be Made Public

Many and probably the most horrendous photos of the torture in Abu Ghraib were never released to the public.

And this is probably only a fraction of what the USA has been hidding when it comes to its Torture Program . Clearly, the true colours and depth of the American torture Program is still unknown to the public.

Is some of the worse done by the American government and its accomplices going to come out?

Hypocrisy and lies are still the rule even under the new administration. Do the majority of Americans care ?

It is still to be seen...

In the "North America" of today, accountability doesn't seem to be a priority. Secret Services in both USA and Canada, CSIS/RCMP, CIA/FBI and others have comfortably been covering up their wrongdoings with the help of "secret laws", "secret trial" and who knows what else.

Impunity to criminal activities and to criminals inside governments, in the same (or even "enhanced") old American Style that kidnapped, assassinated and tortured thousands in Central and South America only some years ago are, at least up to now, acceptable and part of the "North Americam life style".

As with Canadian "alignment" with the American Torture Program, complicity from neighbour countries , "indirect torture" or "torture by proxy", no matter what one wants to believe in, was already an American style of getting the job done. It is the same old , same old...

Central and South America were the so called “American Backyards”...Is Canada the new “American Backyard”? Passively and submissively “the mouse under the foot of the elephant” tainting its reputation in the name of some extra dollars for its “secret services”, some brand new SUV's and other “perks”? What could possibly explain the Canadian involvement in the abhorrent American Torture Program? Hopefully Canada will wake up from the illusion that the American “friendship” is more valuable than its own citizens. The future is dark if not !

(for more on the issue see "Killing Hope: U. S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II - by William Blum or visit the post on the Invictus Blog by clicking HERE )

The American way of torturing, kidnapping, murdering and more, along with its lies, secrecy and most of all, no accountability , as it looks like up to now, has come to North America .

But regardless the American way of covering up its and that of its accomplices wrongdoings, once in a while Courts take some action and on March 17, 2009:

"A federal court rejected a Bush administration request to reconsider a decision that ordered the Department of Defense to release photographs depicting the abuse of detainees by U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit rejected the government's request to have the full appeals court rehear a decision from last September ordering the release of the photos as part of an American Civil Liberties Union lawsuit seeking information on the abuse of prisoners held in U.S. custody overseas.

The Obama administration, which has not taken a position on the litigation, has 90 days to appeal to the Supreme Court if it chooses to challenge the September order.

"This decision is a stinging rejection of the Bush administration's attempt to keep the public in the dark about the widespread abuse of prisoners held in U.S. custody abroad," said ACLU staff attorney Amrit Singh, who argued the case before the court. "These photographs demonstrate that prison abuse was not aberrational and not confined to Abu Ghraib. Release of the photographs would send a powerful message that the new administration intends to make a clean break from the unaccountability of the Bush years."

From:
http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2009/03/17-3

To read more , click HERE or go to:

http://docudharma.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=12593


RCMP/CSIS - CIA/FBI - Canadian Complicit in what???

Thursday, March 26, 2009

UK MI5 Complicity in Torture UNDER INVESTIGATION

UK police to investigate MI5 agent role in US detainee alleged abuse
Devin Montgomery at 12:53 PM ET - Jurist Legal News and Research- (go to the site)

Photo source or description
[JURIST] UK Attorney General Janet Scotland [official profile] said Thursday that police would conduct an investigation [statement, PDF] into claims that an agent of the country's MI5 intelligence service took part in the allegedly abusive interrogation of former Guantanamo Bay detainee Binyam Mohamed [BBC profile; JURIST news archive]. Scotland said she determined the investigation was necessary after reviewing allegations that an MI5 agent gave US CIA agents questions that were asked of Mohammed during his alleged torture in Morocco. Mohamed, a native of Ethiopia who claims to have been transferred to Morocco for torture under a US program of extraordinary rendition [JURIST news archive], said he obtained the documents through the US legal process while seeking his release from Guantanamo Bay.

Earlier this month, the UK government's independent reviewer of terror laws called for a judicial inquiry into British complicity in US rendition and torture. British media reported last week that UN special rapporteur on torture Manfred Nowak told British ministers that MI5 may have been complicit [JURIST report] in torture committed while detainees including Mohamed were in US custody. Mohamed was returned to the UK [JURIST report] last week following seven years of detention, including five at Guantanamo Bay, where he was held on charges of conspiring to commit terrorism. Those charges were dismissed [JURIST report] in October, but Mohamed remained in custody while US authorities considered filing new charges.

Saturday, March 21, 2009

Public Safety Committee hearings THIS Tuesday - March 24 - 9 to 11 - OPEN TO THE PUBLIC - KERRY PITHER testifies

Open to the Public

Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security Hearing

March 24, 2009 - from 9:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. -room 269 of the West Block on Parliament Hill

Kerry Pither will be testifying before the Committee

For more information , click HERE:

http://kerrypither.com/2009/03/public-safety-committee-hearings-this-tuesday/

EVENT POSTPONED TO APRIL -"Deportation to Torture: Past, Present and Future" - Press Conference at the Parliament of Canada

"Deportation to Torture: Past, Present and Future" - Press Conference at the Parliament of Canada - A NEW DATE WILL BE POSTED - - not on March 31, 12:00- 1:00 pm
Press Conference: "Deportation to Torture: Past, Present and Future"
Parliament of Canada.

Speakers:
MP Wayne Marston -NDP Human Rights Critic
Dr. Monia Mazigh -wife of Maher Arar
Yavar Hameed –Lawyer for Abousfian Abdelrazik
Sophie Harkat -wife of Mohamed Harkat
Alex Neve- Amnesty International Secretary General

Room 752, 131 Queen Street Building, Parliament of Canada
RSVP in advance by March 27: Contact Maria Al-Masani 613-614-1916